HP 34740A display and 34702A Multimeter Modules

As men­tioned in a pre­vi­ous post on the Hewlett Packard 34702A Multimeter mod­ule, I have been look­ing for a 34740A dis­play mod­ule to pair with it. I was lucky to find a mod­ule that was in a good cos­met­ic con­di­tion and untest­ed for a rea­son­able price.

Hewlett Packard 34740A dis­play paired with a 34702A mul­ti­me­ter module

The Hewlett Packard 34740A dis­play mod­ule is a four-dig­it 1 V range dc volt­meter with 100% over-range capa­bil­i­ty, it uses a dual-slope inte­grat­ing mea­sure­ment tech­nique, and can dis­play up to 19999 counts. It also sup­plies pow­er to the func­tion mod­ule it is attached to, which in this case is the 34702A mul­ti­me­ter mod­ule. It is the pre­de­ces­sor to the 34750A 5 ½ dig­it display.

Lots of spi­der webs and molts across the A2 and A3 boards
More spi­der webs and molts around the 3 MHz crystal

Overall the mod­ule was in good con­di­tion, but had a large amount of spi­der webs and molts inside the mod­ule. After a good clean­ing all the spi­ders and webs were evict­ed, with no dam­age found on any com­po­nents or traces. Extra care was giv­en to the A3 board and it’s high imped­ance cir­cuits, which includ­ed sev­er­al 99% iso­propyl alco­hol scrubs and rins­es to remove any slight­ly con­duc­tive materials.

A1 and A3 boards after clean­ing with orig­i­nal capacitors

The first checks I made were the sup­ply volt­age set­tings on the rear pan­el, the fuse for cor­rect rat­ing, in-cir­cuit elec­trolyt­ic capac­i­tor checks, and then the pow­er trans­former for opens and shorts. All looked good, so I pow­ered it up for the first time.
Well, at least it had a dis­play indi­ca­tion that read +1.000, and all +5, +12, ‑12, pow­er sup­ply volt­ages were well with­in spec­i­fi­ca­tions. I was hop­ing for a dis­play of .0000 with the input short­ed. I also tried a small pos­i­tive and neg­a­tive volt­age at the input with no changes to the display.

Logic test­ing A1 board with my HP 548A Logic Clip

After fir­ing up the oscil­lo­scope and using my HP 548A Logic Clip, I deter­mined that none of the tim­ing sig­nals were active on the A, B, or C cir­cuits. The cul­prit was a bad 74L74 dual D edge-trig­gered flip-flop in U20, HP part num­ber 1820–0596.
Replacing it got the dis­play read­ing some­thing oth­er than 1.0000, but it still was­n’t oper­at­ing correctly.

Tauntek LogICTester read­out for bad U20 74L74 IC

After some more trou­bleshoot­ing I found that I was miss­ing the +1 volt ref­er­ence volt­age from a cus­tom HP IC. This had me very wor­ried at first as it would be very hard to source a replace­ment. The prob­lem end­ed up being a miss­ing spe­cial 6.2 volt pos­i­tive sup­ply for the ref­er­ence IC. The issue was with Q34 a 30 volt N‑Chan JFET HP part 1855–0062 that was open. I end­ed up replac­ing it with a J211-D74Z rat­ed at 25 volts.
After replace­ment the +6.2 volts was back along with the ref­er­ence +1 volt supplies.

Replaced bad or mar­gin­al parts on the HP 34740A display

Overall the dis­play mod­ule was func­tion­ing prop­er­ly, but there was still an issue with the dis­play. It was dis­play­ing a short­ened 1 miss­ing the upper and low­er LED dot in the 10,000 dig­it dis­play, when read­ing a val­ue below 10000.
Again the prob­lem IC was a bad 74L74 flip-flop at U8 in the dis­play blank­ing cir­cuit. Once replaced the dis­play blank­ing cir­cuit worked prop­er­ly again.
With so many 74L74 IC’s fail­ing, I pre­emp­tive­ly replaced U16, anoth­er 74L74 in the tim­ing cir­cuit even though it test­ed good. And for good mea­sure I replaced the pow­er sup­ply sec­tion elec­trolyt­ic capac­i­tors which were still bare­ly with­in spec­i­fi­ca­tions, but since this mod­ule was built in 1977 they had a good 45 year life and were ready to retire.

New Vishay elec­trolyt­ic capac­i­tors with Kapton tape on bottom

The new elec­trolyt­ic capac­i­tors were Vishay long-life axi­al parts with the same capac­i­tance rat­ing, but one step up from the orig­i­nals in their volt­age rat­ings. I also used some Kapton tape for a bit more insu­la­tion where the capac­i­tors rest on the cir­cuit board.
Another safe­ty upgrade, was some red heat shrink insu­la­tion on the two AC pow­er input tabs, and a piece of Kapton tape above the volt­age selec­tion switches.

Working HP 34740A dis­play board with new Vishay capacitors

Now that the dis­play was work­ing, it was time to turn my atten­tion to the 34702A mul­ti­me­ter mod­ule with min­i­mal test­ing from a pre­vi­ous post.
I was able to ful­ly cal­i­brate the DC volt­age and Ohms func­tions on the mul­ti­mer mod­ule, but no mat­ter what I tried the AC volt­age func­tion was always around 0.18 volts dif­fer­ent than the expect­ed read­ing. After sev­er­al hours of trou­bleshoot­ing, and sev­er­al cups of cof­fee, I decid­ed to lift one of the leads of C19 a bi-polar 100uF capac­i­tor in the “AC Converter” sec­tion and found that it had exces­sive leak­age cur­rent. After check­ing C14 and C21 which were iden­ti­cal capac­i­tors to C19 they were also slight­ly leaky but not near­ly as bad as C19. After replace­ment of these three bi-polar elec­trolyt­ic capac­i­tors I was now able to cal­i­brate the AC function.

New bi-polar elec­trolyt­ic capac­i­tors for AC sec­tion of HP 34702A multimeter

I used a 220 uF capac­i­tor in C14, as I did­n’t have enough 100 uF capac­i­tors in stock. Leads of the radi­al capac­i­tors were insu­lat­ed with PTFE wire insu­la­tion to pre­vent short­ing to board traces. A new Vishay TVA series 100 uF axi­al capac­i­tor TVAN1207.1 that fea­tures low leak­age cur­rent, is on order to replace the 220 uF tem­po­rary unit.

Calibrating the AC func­tion of the HP 34702A mul­ti­me­ter module

After a bit of work the Hewlett Packard 34740A dis­play and 34702A mul­ti­me­ter pair are now ful­ly func­tion­al and cal­i­brat­ed. I have been extreme­ly impressed with the accu­ra­cy and sta­bil­i­ty of this com­bo which exceed­ed my expec­ta­tions.
I would like to replace the front pan­el bind­ing posts $$ at some point in the future, but they are cur­rent­ly func­tion­al, and not in my cur­rent budget.

I am cur­rent­ly work­ing on a replace­ment for the HP 11456–66501 dis­play mod­ule test card for the HP 34740A and 34750A dis­play units, which would have made trou­bleshoot­ing much eas­i­er. I may loan it out to oth­ers in the future if it works as expected.

Gallery pho­tos of resis­tance stan­dard checks, and addi­tion­al 34740A images: —click on images to enlarge.

4 Replies to “HP 34740A display and 34702A Multimeter Modules”

  1. Like you, I found the 54740 and 54750 fam­i­lies inter­est­ing. I have some of each. I also have one of the 11456–66501 Display Module Test Cards, so I just pulled it out to see what the resis­tor on it was. It appears to be a very ordi­nary car­bon comp 1/8 W, 10%, 3.9 MOhm (orange/white/green/silver) resis­tor. Two dif­fer­ent Flukes say it now mea­sures 4.36 MOhm.

    I don’t recall if I ever ran that leak­age test.

    If you like this HP fam­i­ly, you might also like their 5300 fam­i­ly of coun­ters, which use the same case and plug-on con­struc­tion. It’s a big­ger fam­i­ly, with 2 dis­play ver­sions and near­ly a dozen dif­fer­ent coun­ters. They tend to be quite rea­son­ably priced, because they don’t have the cachet of the much fanci­er HP coun­ters, but they count almost any­thing you might want to count, up to 1 GHz, depend­ing on the counter mod­ule ver­sion you attach to the display.

    I have extras to sell, if you’re inter­est­ed, but they’ve already been fixed, so you don’t get to go thru the joy of troubleshooting.

    1. Hi Jim,
      Thanks for the val­ue on 11456A leak­age test resis­tor. All the pic­tures I had of the card were very blur­ry and not help­ful in deter­min­ing the value.
      I will update my post with the cor­rect value.
      You are right with the 5300 series coun­ters. It was sort of the oth­er way around, as I already had sev­er­al 5300’s and that got me inter­est­ed in the HP 3470 series meters.

      Hewlett Packard 5300 series counters

  2. I’ve had a 34702A/34740A on my bench for at least 25 years (and it was sur­plus when I bought it). Some time in the 90’s it had a 74L02 fail in the log­ic, so I replaced that with a 74LS02 (and installed a sock­et as I usu­al­ly do in case of issues) and it has been a reli­able bench DVM.
    Until last week, that is, when it sud­den­ly start­ed dis­play­ing over­range on any pos­i­tive input, no mat­ter how small. Negative worked. That told me the prob­lem was the same as you detail above (miss­ing ref­er­ence volt­age). The HP man­u­al shows 2N1595 for these JFETs which is obvi­ous­ly incor­rect since that is a met­al-can SCR! I used a J310 which works ok, but one with a low­er Idss would be bet­ter to reduce heating.
    I also notice that the AC ranges can’t be brought into accu­rate cal­i­bra­tion — thanks for the tip about the non­po­lar caps! I will check them out too 🙂

  3. I did some addi­tion­al work on the 34702A/34740A… I replaced the 1500 uF and 680 uF caps in the pow­er sup­ply. Even though they appeared to be work­ing, they are still 50 years old.

    Also I replaced C21 and C14 bipo­lar caps in the AC con­vert­er since you had dis­cov­ered leaky ones. At that point I found I’d only ordered two caps, and C19 might also ben­e­fit from replace­ment. For now, I picked the old cap with the low­est leak­age cur­rent and swapped it in for C19 😉
    Now I could cal­i­brate the 1V and 10V AC ranges at 10 KHz using a GR 2 Hz- 2 MHz oscil­la­tor, (at least to agree with my Fluke 8640a bench DVM). But the 100V still could not be set low enough. There is a small note on the schemat­ic stat­ing that C8 (a 22 pf sil­ver mica) is always on the board but the jumper par­al­lel­ing it with C7 (1012 pf 1% SM) may not be installed “depend­ing on the require­ment of the atten­u­a­tor”. That jumper had been cut, pos­si­bly at the fac­to­ry. Once recon­nect­ed, the 100V range then agreed with the Fluke in the mid­dle of its adjust­ment. (I don’t have a source of 1KV at 10 KHz to fin­ish the sequence).

    But there’s one remain­ing prob­lem — the atten­u­a­tor response is not per­fect­ly flat (and was­n’t before recon­nect­ing C8 either). The Fluke dis­play changes very lit­tle when switch­ing the oscil­la­tor between 100 Hz (for con­ve­nience, just turn two posi­tions on the decade range switch) and 10 KHz, but the HP starts to read low. 

    On the oth­er hand, even the short-term (30 day) AC accu­ra­cy is spec­i­fied at +/- (0.25% of read­ing + 0.05% of range) from 45 Hz to 20 KHz. So with (for exam­ple) 20V RMS applied to the 100V range, 20*0.25% = 50 mV, and 0.05% of 100V is anoth­er 50 mV. I only see about a 20 mV shift. I guess it’s well with­in specs now, but it seems that hav­ing 4.5 dig­its isn’t that use­ful after all 🙂

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